"macanamera" (macanamera)
10/10/2014 at 11:00 • Filed to: None
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"macanamera" (macanamera)
10/10/2014 at 11:00 • Filed to: None | 3
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Good morning gents, and welcome back to Tie-lopnik! Today, we celebrate two (work) weeks of Tie-lopnik, and what better way to celebrate than to go back and learn all these awesome knots?
Shelby:
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Four-in-Hand:
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Trinity:
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Double Windsor:
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Todays feature knot goes by many names: the Kent knot, the Oriential knot, the simple knot. This is by far the easiest to tie of any knot. Anyone that says "oh I don't know how to tie a tie", look this one up. You can learn it to perfection in about 45 seconds. It is also the smallest of all knots, so hipsters, this one's for you. Get yourself a nice skinny tie, tie this tiny knot, and wear it around as ironically as possible. This diminutive and understated knot will keep the focus on your patchy beard and your oversized plastic-frame glasses.
Kent:
Advantages: hipster paradise, incredibly easy to tie, can be tied one handed, an excellent starting point for beginners, actually kind of uncommon despite its ease
Disadvantages: if every knot says something this one says "this reclaimed industrial space would be perfect for a farm-to-table restaraunt", too small, very hipster-y, even simpler than a four-in-hand, learn a real knot
Milky
> macanamera
10/10/2014 at 10:56 |
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Easy and hipster-y? Perfect.
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macanamera
> Milky
10/10/2014 at 11:04 |
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So, so easy. It makes tying your shoes look like vector calculus.
505Turbeaux
> macanamera
10/10/2014 at 11:07 |
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I need to grab some more skinny ties. And listen to some more 2 tone ska. And rock this knot for the hell of it
Bringin it back
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macanamera
> 505Turbeaux
10/10/2014 at 11:09 |
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Do it!
RockThrillz89
> macanamera
10/10/2014 at 11:12 |
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I'm starting to wonder why all these different knots exist. They just look so similar [at least in the pictures]. I just imagine some Baron or Duke tying his tie [well, his valet] and that Duke responds, "What are you going? That's the knot the Grand Duke of Douchen-upon-Asse wears. I shall not be compared to that pikey! Wrap the front blade once more before the pull-through!"
This knot would be great for those little ties the width of a shoestring, just like you said. Or for Super-Saiyan-Hipster-Golden-Great-Ape level of irony, how about a Windsor with the shoestring?
Textured Soy Protein
> macanamera
10/10/2014 at 11:38 |
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I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate wearing ties.
My neck is too big for ties. This creates multiple problems.
1. Finding a shirt with a big enough neck that is also not a ridiculous poofy tent over the rest of my body is nearly impossible. Usually the best I can manage is a shirt that fits me, and I can barely button around my neck without choking myself.
2. Most ties aren't long enough for me. If I tie them so the front part falls where it should (in the general direction of my belt buckle) the little part on the back doesn't hang down enough to loop through the loop on the back.
Luckily, I have very few situations where I need to wear a tie. These are mostly job interviews, religious services, weddings, and funerals. But I usually try to get away with wearing a suit and no tie where I can.
Because you know who says you have to wear a tie? THE MAN.
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macanamera
> Textured Soy Protein
10/10/2014 at 11:41 |
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1. Dude, how big are you? They make shirts with 18" necks...
2. A guy I work with is 6'9". He buys long ties from Jos. A. Bank, works out just fine.
3. I am the man.
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macanamera
> RockThrillz89
10/10/2014 at 11:42 |
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Well, the pictures are very 2-D, of course. In person, they do look different. Some of them are similar, of course, but there are very noticeable differences between many of them. And of course, they are all tied differently.
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macanamera
> RockThrillz89
10/10/2014 at 11:42 |
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I don't have any of those shoestring ties. Like, what are they for?
Cash Rewards
> RockThrillz89
10/10/2014 at 11:50 |
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Ties themselves have different widths, so different knots might look better with wider/skinnier tires. Also, some collars can be narrow or wider, so a different knot might look better on a shirt. But yeah, sometimes it's baron van snootypants time.
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RockThrillz89
> macanamera
10/10/2014 at 11:59 |
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I was just commenting on how skinny some ties really are. The following pic, the tie is smaller than the button placket of the shirt (also tennis collar, so yeah).
Exhibit A:
As to the purpose of them? I haven't the slightest. I guess they look good in fashion magazines or something. Can't say I've ever seen one on the street.
I don't doubt all the knots look different. But are they really so different that some can't be substituted and no one would really know? Aside from those braided type knots, it's either symmetrical or asymmetrical, small medium or large. And some knots seem to fall into the same categories (Small Sym for a couple knots, for example).
Honestly, a lot are probably hold overs from the days when you could walk down the street and you would see 15 different collar styles, and each knot complimented a specific collar. That doesn't happen today. You might see 3 different styles (point, button, spread), fashion weeks may be a different story.
Tl;dr: there are more knots than I thought, I just wonder why so many exist.
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Textured Soy Protein
> macanamera
10/10/2014 at 12:02 |
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I'm 5'11" with an 18.5" neck. Most shirts with 18.5" necks fit my neck but are otherwise huge on me. I can just barely button the top button on some but not all 18" neck shirts, but it's too tight to be comfortable.
Long ties would solve issue #2.
So I guess you could say that I hate the shirt situation that goes along with wearing a tie, more than the ties themselves.
But also, I'm not a formal guy at all. I don't like dressing up because society dictates that we should look fancy for certain things. It's like my tiny little way of bristling at authority.
Mostly I'm happy to wear jeans, a tshirt and sneakers wherever I go. I just make them nice jeans and tshirt, with nice watches and sneakers.
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RockThrillz89
> Cash Rewards
10/10/2014 at 12:05 |
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I understand all that. I have spread collars, point collars, tab collars; thick ties, thin ties, unlined ties. Just wondering why so many different variations to accomplish practically the same thing. I guess it's exactly that, men needed to accomplish a certain knot, and since they couldn't just pop on YouTube or something, they just created their own method. I'd like to know the history behind them, if such a thing exists, more so than the purpose they serve today.
nermal
> macanamera
10/10/2014 at 12:06 |
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This is yet another asymetrical knot, which clearly screams amateur hour.
If somebody came into my (theoretical) office asking for a promotion or a raise while wearing a tie that was tied in this fashion or similar, I'd instantly demote them to barista based on principle.
I'm eagerly awaiting features on bolo ties and bow ties, however.
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macanamera
> Textured Soy Protein
10/10/2014 at 12:08 |
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I totally agree. People that dress formally for no reason bother me, but at work, I like to wear a tie. I would never go out and wear a tie, though.
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Cash Rewards
> RockThrillz89
10/10/2014 at 12:15 |
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Gotcha, I agree. I got a go-to skinny knot and a go-to fat one. And yeah, the history of some of this might be interesting.
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macanamera
> nermal
10/10/2014 at 12:37 |
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I didn't know you had tie a Bolo lol